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to pay taxes, we should not be using taxes to reward people who fail. we should be using them to reward people that want to work. everybody in this country should succeed, not just people in government. host: president obama gave an address yesterday talking about how congress should act to keep taxes low. let's take a listen. >> 97% of small-business owners will not see their taxes go up next year. this is something everybody says they agree on. it should have gotten done months ago. republicans in congress are standing in the way. there are holding tax cuts for 98% of americans hostage until they pass tax cuts for of the richest 2%. congress needs to step up and provide every responsible homeowner a chance to save $3,000 a year on mortgage at refinancing at lower rates. i give them a plan to do that in february. it is a plan that has the support of independent nonpartisan economists. republicans will not let it come to a vote. ask them how that helps homeowners. congress needs to step up and pass my plan to create a job corps to help our returning heroes find jobs as cops, firefighter
that says, if we cut taxes, skew toward the wealthy, and roll back regulations we will be better off. i have a different view. i think we have to invest in education and training. i think it is important for us to develop new sources of energy here in america, that we change our tax code to make sure we are helping small businesses and companies here in the united states. that we take some of the money we are saving as we wind down two wars to rebuild america, and that we reduce our deficit in a way that makes us ablet -- that makes it able for us to create critical investments. it is up to you. are we going to go from the top down, which is what got us into this mess, or do we embrace the new economic patriotism that says america does best when the middle class does best? i'm looking forward to having that debate. >> governor romney. >> thank you, jim. i appreciate the chance to be with the president. appreciate the university of denver and their welcome. congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i am sure this is the most dramatic place you could imagine, here with me. so
could be accurate or not. what is the person saying there should not be a millionaire tax or should be. who is the special interest dominating that message point coming out and how does the voter get through it? i think one the most amazing thicks happening in the country when you look at the president number heys doing well. what's fascinated about the amount of money being spent by the cross roads and the entity for some reason the message is not coming through it's not compel fpg you look at the swing states that we were going to be remarkably close are going to trend toward tbhawm a way that somebody thinks to seem unless the debate set the presidential election. it's clear the spt heading toward a environment he has a advantage. romney is going to be exceptional. >> tune in. >> fiewn in and watch. let watch. >> i'm excited. >> talk about in next week in class. >> would you taunt the cross road different and you engage in more localized races congressional and senate how you choose your priorities since so you have a broader scope. >> yeah. that's a good question. we're focused on
don't know. i never have enough money to do it. the middle class needs relief, tax relief. they needed now. >> the governor, if you like to respond to what he said about senator mccain's remarks. >> we can speak an agreement that, don wright, we need tax relief for americans so that -- darn right, we need tax relief for americans so that we can have jobs in america. barack had 94 opportunities to side on the people's side and reduce taxes and 94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction. 94 times. that is not what we need to create jobs and really bolster and heat up our economy. we do need the private sector to be able to keep more what we're in and produce. government will have to learn to be more efficient and live with less if that is what it takes to rein in the government growth that we have seen today. but we do need tax relief and barack obama even supported increasing taxes as late as last year for those families making only 40 two thousand dollars a year. that is a lot of middle-income average american families to increase taxes on them. i think that is
and a tax cut. that was done with the republican governor, is split between republicans and democrats in the house and senate. it was a bipartisan effort. we got it done for texas. road. been on the i really do not know. >> mr. sadler, a democrat has not won a statewide office in texas since 1994. do you consider this an uphill battle? >> for an open senate seat, it is always a battle, and should be, and needs to be, regardless of the party. i understand we have not elected a democrat in a long time. >> let's go to mr. cruz. he said the day after you beat lt. governor dewhurst, he said he would run scared for the general election. but you have agreed to this and what other debt -- televised debate. you criticized governor dewhurst for having almost 40 candidate forms up to the primary, but are you planning its eighth and coasting? safe and coasting? >> we have been crisscrossing the state of texas. we have been all over the state, literally hundreds of dop's and vfw halls and enny's talking with voters in every part of the state. that is what we are doing between now and election day.
to tackle at an issue, increasing their taxes? >> let's start with the families. they will get their attention. the voters have to understand all this, which they did not, and voters need to understand what we have to do to get all this corrected, and they do not. if we ever get that over to the voters, they will vote for the people who are geared up, ready, and know how to do it and are running on that basis, and then we can change this country forever and get us back to where we used to be when i was a boy in the depression. why schoolteachers and would have been doctors, lawyers, indian chiefs today. with luck they were making $200 a month, but they were talented, they brought out the best in all of us. they were by example really fine people, and with the highest qualities. all that got transmitted to the children at class a even if they were not getting it at home. >> when you were running you were talking about increasing not necessarily dollars per capita, but investing in education, communications, and transportation. even while trying to reduce deficits and debt, you w
on the for the past 18 months. he even through the tax policy away. he just changed everything. it was really unbelievable. i think many people looked at him being more aggressive. that is what they were rewarding. once people started paying attention to exactly why he said, they would see that his -- that he told so many lies and distorted what he was trying to say. i think the president look very presidential. he was not aggressive. he explained exactly what he wanted to say. i thought the whole purpose of the debate was for each one to explain what their policy was. romney just completely changed. that is what was so -- i guess it is not so surprising, because that is what he has done is flip-floping. i hope the president would get an ad out or they show what he has been saying and what he said last night. host: that was an from north carolina. this is from the president's home town newspaper. pieces.susan page's -- piece. she writes -- the podium in front of him not even adorned with the presidential seal. at times he sounded annoyed and defensive about having his tenure challenged in a w
, it will be impossible to bridge the gap without it. what mr. gore's plan will do causing huge payroll taxes or major benefit reductions. >> new question. are there issues of character that distinguish you from vice president gore? >> the man loves his wife and i appreciate that a lot. and i love mine. the man loves his family a lot, and i appreciate that, because i love my family. i think the thing that discouraged me about the vice president was uttering those famous words, "no controlling legal authority." i felt like there needed to be a better sense of responsibility of what was going on in the white house. i believe that -- i believe they've moved that sign, "the buck stops here" from the oval office desk to "the buck stops here" on the lincoln bedroom. it's not good for the country and it's not right. we need to have a new look about how we conduct ourselves in office. there's a huge trust. i see it all the time when people come up to me and say, i don't want you to let me down again. and we can do better than the past administration has done. it's time for a fresh start. it's time for a new l
there be anything surprising that emerges from there? mike the committee be smaller tax >> we were talking about rumors earlier in the context of -- might thed committee be smaller? >> we were talking rumors earlier. probably the u.s. is on the side, a minor concern that may have affected by a day or two. but fundamentally i think this got decided out of an internal logic in china, and not looking at united states. my own personal guess is that if you look at the pool of people eligible to be the next and the commit -- standing committee, we may have some difficulty deciding which fisher going to get pulled out of the pond. it is revealing to look at the fish in the pond, the totality of what they are choosing among and what we're looking at is a more diverse group of people in terms of education, business, law, even humanity, to some extent. we are looking at a broader generations. we are looking at people, we were talking about xi. he has some enormous experience, my those leaders from all over the world visiting his city. i think we are looking at people experienced in the world. when we look
' goal on a trillion dollar tax hike on those making more than 200,000 a year or family 250,000. >> people in the middle class has been squeezed or buried as the vice-president said. and romney's remarks, inelegant. 47%, he renounced it once and for all. >> completely wrong and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> and hoped with those remarks, romney would lay those to rest and close the door on that. to prevent that the democrats were pumping out attack ads to keep it very much. >> bret: carl cameron, on your last point, almost everyone talking about wednesday's debate says mitt romney did pretty well or won, but how he won, that's the question, as carl mentioned, that has entered the post debate spin cycle. >> governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> stretching the truth or worse, that's how mitt romney won the debate. it's now a familiar refrain from democrats. echoed by sympathetic media outlets. >> i give him credit for a strong performance. i gi
actually, it is a bit more than that. but we do not need is a tax increase that will cost us 700,000 jobs. two years ago, the president said you do not want to raise taxes in a bad economy. the economy was better than that it is now. ladies and gentleman, this is a big choice. it is not only about taxes. it is about freedom. it is about our principles. it is about our country. it is about the idea of our country. america is so much more than a country with a flag. it is an idea. these ideas make us who we are. they make us special. i will see something that in washington is considered out of date or wrong, and it is this -- america is an exceptional nation. we are not afraid to say so. [cheers and applause] >> usa! usa! usa! >> we have a chance to get ourselves on the right track. we have a chance to vote for someone who will protect our freedoms. he will lead to protect our religious freedom. he will protect our second amendment rights. ladies and gentlemen, right here in virginia, we have a big choice to make. america has a big choice to make. america will make the right choice
to not pay federal taxes part of the 47%. oh irony thy bitter pill. mitt romney is leading among the 47% he derided in ohio. really, what can he do? what can governor romney do at this point in the campaign to turn it around? can he be funny? should he get an earring? get his hair done? what could he possibly do to try to change his fortune? i want to know what the bill press listeners think. we're at 1-866-55-press. is there any way mitt romney can win this or is he really in the lead and as dick morris and sean hannity have said, all of the polls are lying and all of the polls are fraud because it is such a liberal media. so we want to know what you think. give us a buzz at 1-866-55-press. and let's have a listen, if we can to a very fascinating piece of audio. mitt romney's garbage man who i presume, isn't part of the 47% but he's a hard working american citizen. i would imagine he's union. i would hope he is. and they tracked down one of mitt romney's sanitation workers. let's give a listen to this audio.
entitlement that they didn't pay for. and then they added a $1 trillion tax cut for the very wealthy on top of that. now, they -- those are the facts. the end result of all that was by the time we were elected they had in eight years doubled the national debt, that clock, doubled it and in addition to that they had the slowest job, private job growth since world war ii under this policy. and by the time the president sat down behind that famous desk the resolute in noble office within a week of sitting down our economists told us mr. president you're going to have to deal with a $1 trillion debt this year because there's nothing you can do about it. the budget was passed back october. and so ladies and gentlemen so much for their credibility on the debt, but what did it produce for us? it produced the great recession all these things they did in doubling national debt and these massive tax cuts that absolutely eviscerated the middle class. they say we urgently want to deal with it now. basically i think my opponent says something like, you know, i don't know, he said something about he was
. they should pay taxes. then we should have some kind of clear pathway. it does not mean the front of the line. we can make whatever requirements we want. but we cannot continue to stick our head in the sand. this is too important, too important for our state. if we do not do anything, we will have the same discussion. >> mr. cruz, do you support a path to citizenship for the 1.6 texas? >> i do not. and let me say more broadly, i think there is a very clear divide. as i said before, i commend mr. sadler for running as an unapologetic liberal. illegals. i do not. he supports obamacare. i do not. mr. sadler has opposed second amendment rights. i fight for second amendment rights. >> what does that have to do with? he is going off on -- >> mr. sadler has championed on income tax and the state of texas. i oppose that. there is a sharp difference. that is good, becauseit gives texans a clear choice between what is right -- the right direction. >> so what would you do for the illegal immigrants here? do you see that as a problem? >> the texas home-building and restaurant industries are sensitive to
so you can decide. >> steve: president obama raising taxes is the only way to dig america out of the ditch. >> it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopp holes that affect only high income individuals math. it is aryth metic. >> steve: really. governor romney said cu. >> brian: this might ease your fears. free flightts to leave the country if your guy goes down. "fox and friends", we are up and we are on right now. ♪ ♪ "fox and friends". >> congratulations to you mr. president on your anniversary. i am sure this is the most romantic place you can imagine, here we me. i like pbs and big bird and you, too. i will not spend money borrowing from china to pay for it. >> american people have to ask is the reason governor rum rhumb all of the plans because they are too good. >> look, i have five boys, i am used to people saying something that is not always true and keep on repeating it and hoping i will believe it. that is not the case. a friend of mine said you pick losers. . you are ened to your own plane and house. >> two minutes is up. >> i had five second
the differences between himself and zeroing in on taxes. >> for instance, he is going to raise taxes. vice president blurted out the truth. they plan on raising taxes trillion. they have already raised them a trillion. that is increases on taxes on small business, among other things. that will mean less jobs. >> reporter: on the campaign trail in ohio, president obama appeared to have a lot of fire that he seemed to be lacking on tuesday night. and accusing romney at shocking dishonesty and even though the deputy campaign acknowledged that tax cut would not be nearly 5 trillion dollars, it's something that the president repeated in cleveland. >> we put two wars a two tax cuts on a credit card. we didn't pay for them. now, mr. romney wants another 5 trillion dollars in tax cuts that he can't pay for. we're not going to let that happen. we are not going to fall backward, not with so much at stake. >> reporter: governor romney answering in the ad wars, as well. a new ad featuring melanie mack that mara that voted for president obama back in 2008. this time around she says she is going to vote
a tax break. we will think that at least some of these guys who give money are just too forward their beliefs. maybe that is starry eyed. at least in some cases, this is really not about consideration. that is not to say that their beliefs to outline of what material considerations. it is a little harder to tell this story of corruption. you can still tell the story of influence. the point of giving money to a candidate somewhere along the line is to change the way policy is made in this country. that will never go away. what do we do with the guys saying i like certain policies and i want to see more of that. >> there was an interview recently where it was said that there's a possibility of federal investigations. he was convinced it obama wins, they will pursue these. >> why not use the real one? >> the real one has already been flogged to death. >> having spent time -- sometimes the press gets it wrong in assuming that every -- anybody who gives money is a bad person. that is the assumption of the narrative. big bad money people who are out to buy the election. the reality is
clear to people that all these falsehoods coming out of the obama campaign about our tax policy about our medicare reform and all that are just that. >> reporter: romney will be working in pre-debate campaigning as he arrives. every day counts. wolf? >> preside obama is spending the next couple of days in henderson, nevada, gearing up for wednesday's debate. our white house correspondent dan lothian is over at the white house. he getting new information. what's the latest on his xaeb preparation, dan? >> reporter: campaign official telling me that the president began those practices last might after arriving in defense nevada and continued these rehearsals this morning in nevada as well. taking only a break this afternoon. one of the things that they are really working on is trying to get the president to be more concise and in his answers. you know, sometime it is president can be long winded and the campaign has admitted this and it is not the most effective way to deliver your message. so they are trying to get the president to answer these questions with very few words. he has a s
for closure during the previous administration. here are the facts. the $5 trillion tax plan that mitt romney and paul ryan put on the table, you can't pay for it without raising taxes on the middle class and raising taxes on seniors. the same economists who mitt romney referred to to back up his plan said you couldn't pay for it without eliminating the mortgage introduction which many middle class families rely on if they have more specifics, we are interested to hear those tomorrow night. so far we haven't heard how you pay for it without raising taxes on the middle class. >> as we look at a new quinnipiac poll, it's finding more of the majority of americans think the president will win the debates. the president has done his best to temper debate expectations looming out there, saying he's just an okay debater. is your campaign worried these high expectations could backfire on the president? >> the president will come into the debates prepared. mitt romney has been preparing for the debates earlier than any candidate we could find on record since july. it took the week of the convention to
people are you paying payroll taxes? that's a pretty good number. the unemployment comes from what we call the household survey, calling people up at home and saying do you have a job? are you working? are you unemployment and looking for a job or unemployed and not looking for a job. in that group it's a larger group because you have the self-employed. over the obama years, more and more people have left the labor force completely. especially older people between 50 and 56 that live off their savings and ira's before they should. some of those folks have returned in part-time work essentially in home-based businesses. about 110, 115,000 jobs are created in the establishment survey or the employer survey. but about 850 in the household survey, that would imply 700,000 or about 5% of american families have established a home-based business. it's completely implausible that that could happen. >> okay. so you say it's completely implausible and you are not the first economist to say this. and the only sample in terms of teeny fraction something like 55,000 people they call. is it possibl
than an hour and a half, a forum on possible tax increases caused by the so- called fiscal cliff after the first of the year. later, the senate debate in the jersey. on washington journal tomorrow morning, we will be joined by ann coulter. we will talk about politics with katrina vanden heuvel, editor of "the nation." washington journal is live everyday at 7:00 eastern. >> americans are not the only people to have a september 11 in their national story. in santiago, chile there was a september 11 even that had a dramatic impact on chilean history and memory. military officers on that day had a full-scale assault on their country. it took over radio stations, police stations, and other centers of power. they stormed the presidential palace, charged through guns blazing. when they were done, the president of chile were dead. a these events led by an army general named agusto. -- augusto pinochet. what most chileans did not know at what many americans still do not know was that the coup of september 11, 1973 was the work of intelligence operatives -- american intelligence operatives that
it comes to tax loopholes and maybe specifics when he talks about the 47%? >> i don't know that zingers necessarily turn it around. john harwood had a great piece in today's "new york times" talking about how rarely does a debate alter the outcome of a presidential race. so, you know, a good one liner may take -- get people to take notice but i don't think it turns around the momentum. he needs to completely right this ship because ever since the 47%, and the president clinton speech at the debate, the momentum has gone completely against him. >> i'm going to bring in chris. one more time, michael, what can he do that would change? that's what i'm looking for in an answer here. what do you believe specifically he can say at this point? >> if i were advising mitt romney my advice would be to be the man that was a governor, as a moderate of massachusetts and not the incarnation who has sought the presidency trying to appease all the ideologues on the right end of the spectrum. >> that is the opposite of a man you as a conservative does not want to see. you do not want to see massachusetts
and on the state exchanges, that the congress forced the state to raise taxes and tell them how to pend it the supreme court weighed in on that. the statute is 2700 pages long and there are many other challenges in the court system to other parts of the statu. there are 45 plaintiffs all religious organizations many of them catholic and arch dose dose of new york challenged the so-called employer man date. the employer man date requires employers to buy health insurance that makes services available that violate the employer's values like birth control and abortion and euthaniasia. this would apply to universities and students. can yesterday the supreme court recognized one of the employer mandate challenges made its way to the federal appellate court and the appeals court said we don't want to hear supreme court said we are about to tell the appeals court to hear this. so it can make its way to us. the supreme court will rule on this next year rather than three or four years from now. >> gretchen: what is the messaging from the supreme court that they would tell a court below to rule o
. this is a frustrating story. we're really happy you brought it to our attention. these are our tax dollars at work or not at work. this is happening all over the country. your story is particularly egregious. you're a small business owner out there on your own trying to turn this economy around the got is getting in your way. we want to let everyone know what is going on. keep us update what is going on and we're on your side. wow, thanks for coming on. >> thank you for having me. melissa: we contacted the city and redevelopment authority and sent us following statement. we want to be bring you a story and vet it make sure it is true on up and up. we support citizens who wish to improve publicly owned lands in their communities, to protect taxpayers the policy have an agreement spells out rights and responsibilities of each party and address the liability issues. for what that is worth. >>> does mitt romney need to get a clearer message out on taxes? lou dobbs weighs in. take a look how the 10-year and 30-year treasury are trading right now. we were listening to ben bernanke a short time ago. you
running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to pay for the wealthy. the fellow onstage last night said he did not know anything about that. the real mitt romney said we do not need any more teachers in our classrooms. [booing] don't boo -- vote. but the fellow onstage last night, he loves teachers, cannot get enough of them. the mitt romney we all know invested in companies that were called pioneers of the outsourcing jobs to other countries. but he got onstage last night, he said that he does not even know that there are such laws that encourage outsourcing. he has never heard of them. never heard of them. never heard of tax breaks for companies who ship jobs overseas. he said if it is true, must need a new accountant. we know for sure it was not the real big trouble because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. the man onstage last night does not want to be held accountable for mitt romney's decisions and what he has been saying for the last year. we know we do not want what he has been saying for the last year. governor romne
, being a tax cheat, swiss bank accounts, all that kind of stuff, can be rebutted. >> sean: what obama will say -- thus this will be mostly on the economy. obama will say, it's getting better. that was the recovery summer of 2010. >> but romney -- there were a whole lot of people right now who want to vote for romney. want to vote against obama. but they don't want to vote for romney because of all the negatives obama's piled on them which has not been answered. they're sitting on one side waiting for permission to jump over and vote for romney. in the debate, that he's not a monster, that he's a man of integrity and defending himself on this stuff, can absolutely encourage them to jump over and make it possible for them to do that. >> sean: what a joke all weekend, watching the obama people trying to lower expectations. >> yeah, right. >> sean: 2-1. >> let's par remember that most debates work in favor of the challenger. the challenger walks on and does a good job, like reagan did against carter, all the fears of him go away. carter against gerald ford in 1976. mondale against reagan
, heather. vice president biden was down in charlotte north carolina yesterday talking about tax policies and the differences between democrats and republicans when he came out and said the middle class has been buried since president obama took office. >> this is deadly ernst. how they can justify raising taxes to the middle class has been buried for the last 4 years. how in the lord's name can they justify it? >> now instead of focusing solely on tonight's denver the obama campaign is doing damage control even though the vice president changed had. some of the harm done once to the strong middle class republicans are taking the comments and running with it. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years have been quote buried. we agree. stop digging bile electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. >>> the obama campaign is calling that an out of context attack. the numbers they say mr. biden buried line including that that reflect high unemployment rising debt and smaller paychecks over the last four years. >> newt gingrich is ta
taxes, $716 billion out of medicare. it's not right senator. >> the next question. >> early in the debate you said as you often do that this country has experienced 43 months of over 8% unemployment and on your website under joe's plan you say in new jersey they have shown there is a better way. so why is unemployment in this state 9.9% if you've shown the better way? >> because we don't have a strong national economy, because the senator and his colleagues and the executive branch are following a path that is failing us. and if we elect them yet again, we'll get more of the same. there is nothing wrong with our new jersey economy that a roaring national economy wouldn't cure. now here at home, we're doing everything we can to make things right. we're balancing our budgets, we're doing it without tax increases. we are rolling out economic incentives. we do things and we do it in a by partisan way because many of our successes, all of them by necessity, we do with the democratic leadership in the legislature. so can you image if you're former colleague was governor of this st
on his taxes. >> you mentioned the democratic attacks. i want to ask you to go back in history. back in 1967, your father said a ground breaking standard in american politics. he released his tax return. he released them for not one year, but for 12 years. when he did that, he said, one year to be a fluke. when you release yours, will you follow your father's example? >> may be. [laughter] i do not know. i will take a look. audience: boo! >> i will be happy to release them. i know there are some who are very anxious to see if they cannot make it more difficult for a campaign to be successful. i am not going to apologize for being successful. [applause] i am not suggesting these people are doing that. i know the democrats will go after me on that basis. that is why i want to release these things at the same time. my dad, born in mexico, toward, did not get a college degree. i could have stayed in detroit like him and gotten pulled up in the car business. i went up on my own. i did not inheret money. what i have, i earned. [applause] i will be able to talk to president obama in a way n
do to get the economy at of the ditch? reduce spending small business taxes 20 percent across the board and the keystone pipeline that is very specific within the first 100 days. lou: obama must think good thing it is from a and not reince priebus. >> the president needs to stop calling names and playing high-school student government and getting serious and how will the next four years me any better. >> we are seeing some battleground states in national polls in ohio is a significant lead and how concerned are you it could move that measure? >> you may have six tiers 70 million people watching. the debates matter is important for americans to focus not fighting for the future of the american -- republican party this president is not your daddy's democrats. bill clinton nor john kennedy but leftist in the white house that we have to defeat. lou: is the governor romney going to b.v. tea explainer in chief? obama's made a joke he was as clear and articulating the policies that have been followed clearer than anyone in the administration. >> i think it will be very clear. those f
into hiding, trying to generate demand through tax cuts for 95% of the work force, gigantic checks to states to prevent massive layoffs, aid to victims of the great recession, basic infrastructure projects. then start to look and it has $27 billion worth to computerize our pen and paper health care system so a doctor doesn't kill you with his chicken scratch and writing. it authorizes new high-speed rail network, the biggest transportation initiative since the interstate highways, extended our dishing -- existing high-speed internet networks to underserved communities with imam -- modern twist of the electrification program. and research money, modernize the unemployment insurance would hadn't changed since the new vehicle. it launched a new approaches to preventing homelessness, overseeing government spending, and forecasters agree it stops the terrifying free-fall. gdp was crashing 8.9% in the fourth quarter of 2008. that is a depression. we would have lost the entire canadian economy without putting 2009. it is funny. job losses peaked in january of 2009 right before the stimulus has. tha
the math work on his deficit plan and his tax plan. are we going to get those details in the course of the debate? >> well, you know, david, i wish you guys were just as tough on the president. the president says he's going to create a million new manufacturing jobs. he doesn't say how. he says he's going to reduce the long-term debt and deficit by $4 trillion. doesn't say how he's going to do it. you know, let's be fair here. governor romney has laid out a direction and a vision for the direction of this country. he's not an accountant. he's not going to go line by line as much as you'd like him to do through the budget. but let's hold the president to the same standard and criticize him as well. >>> good morning, it is monday, october 1st. it's october, everybody. welcome to "morning joe." >> yeah, you know who's glad september's over? >> who? >> the jets. holy cow! >> i thought you were going to say mitt romney. with us on set, we have msnbc and "time" senior political editor mark halperin and national affairs editor for "new york" magazine john heilemann. guys. hi, willie. >> he
, especially because of his taxes, $901,000 tax credit on foreign investments. >> us us. >> that he took. i want to know, there's four different countries, what was the income from that property and where is that declared? >> exactly right. i mean, i think you're correct you know, mitt romney's coming out now and his new message i'm not cutting taxes for the wealthy at all. you can't sign on to paul ryan's budget and say you don't want to cut taxes for the wealthy. >> exactly. >> that's a great question. do you think the president has got on edge here or he just needs to coast and not. >> up or do you think it's still an uphill battle for him? >> i'm sure it's going to be uphill because of the famous dumb white men. >> as a dumb white man i take offense to that. >> other than yourself, of course. >> thank you, thank you. >> apparently that's the only down poll for him. >> let's be fair, there's plenty of dumb white women out there as well. her man contain has changed all the rules, as well. i think you're right. let me ask you your opinion here. i think governor romney is a much better deba
't. his plan is taxing millionaires and billionaires. his plan to improve education is to invest in the department of education, so the president also has to provide some real specifics here about what is going to be different from his last administration. >> one of the things that's going to be important for this president as he comes out there, in this twitter cycle, people have short memories. where were we four years ago? the country was afraid we would be in a great depression. this guy volunteers to be captain of the titanic after it hit the iceberg and we're still floating. that's a part of the context he has to remind the american people of. >> but i must say, that's a flawed premise. it's a flawed premise. >> we got hours to do that. i got to take a break. you say not specifics. >> i think we lie. we tell pollsters we want specifics. mitt romney has a 59-point plan. we don't want specifics. we want a vision. tell us what big thing you're going to do to change. >> a reality check team is warming up and we've caught one of the cans ming a misleading claim. first, this deba
money from people who can part with $2500 after taxes. he's raise $102 million, or 46%, almost half, through the end of august was coming from people who have maxed out on the donation. as reflected in the super pac. many of the people are fundraiser, bundlers for romney give them next to him, bundle from their friends and colleagues, people they work with, other money, and then write a check for 100,000 or 200,000 or more to one of the super pacs on the outside. so the question is sort of what does this mean for politics? this increase from the outside dollar spending transforming politics going forward? i think the answer so far is a little complicated. one of the driving forces behind this is the supreme court decision which trevor talked much better about me, lower court decision which basically allowed outside money much easier access to our airwaves right before an election. so there were barriers that were there, historically since the watergate era that prevented corporations every wealthy people to pool their money to spend huge amount of television as right before an elect
evidence. there is the offshore tax havens, etc., and they built this story line in a swing state. the super pacs operating independently were not able to build that. you have situations in which two different super pacs would have conflicting add in the same market supporting mitt romney. one would say that barack obama is a really nice guy but he could not get the job done. in the next commercial break you have an ad that says barack obama was never a nice guy, he is a radical socialist lunatic who's trying to take your job. the more money did not feed into a larger narrative in a way that i think the romney campaign would have preferred. a second reason why it is less effective now is under sec rules, the super pac campaign are able to get lowest available rate for their advertising right now. super pacs are not allowed to do that. they are spending far more, sometimes three times as much, and to get the same money. did the third reason i think you're seeing things less effective, in the last month or two, obama's citizens are waking up and spending more dollars. a bunch of peo
the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to favor the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night said he did not know anything about that. [laughter] the real mitt romney it says we don't need any more teachers in our classrooms. [boos] don't boo, vote. [applause] >> some of the beginning of this rally this afternoon. about five more minutes of your phone calls, your reaction to the debate, what you saw in denver. columbia, maryland, on the independent line. >> good afternoon. just a couple of observations. i just watched obamas rally in denver. i just sat there thinking, wow, where was this guy last night? i really wish he had been a little tougher on romney. i think he had opportunity after opportunity to check him, but he didn't. but i still think in the end obama is going to win this. i just think the contrast is quite different. romney -- i sat there and listened to him tell a lie after lie after lie. people are not out on the news. they may not follow the news, or they may look at fox news and get all the information in there, but they should look at c-span, democracy
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